The effect also meant, with less head contact to the shell, there would be less vibration transferred from the head to the wood shell. This made the drums sound punchier and more "alive". And, they 'undersized' their shell diameters a bit more than everyone else (standard fare today) so the head ring didn't contact the shell itself. The re-rings were narrower than anyone else's, they had a much smaller outside roundover than Luddy, Premier, Slingy.the inside bevel seems to be about 30 degrees.but the edges in contact with the heads were sharper, and therefore there was less head contacting the ring than the aforementioed companies.Īlso, the shells were maple ("Kellers", what we would consider today) of the time the big US companies (besides Gretsch) used the mahogany/poplar/maple combo. Lucky.I am scared to answer that because Ploughman hangs here. Would be interested to hear others chime in on their favorites and why. But if they said they needed a kit which sounded vintage but had the most oomph and volume, because a lotta times it'll be used in a rock or funk situation, for example.I would go for a Rogers. Now, if they asked for a kit which had the woodiest vintage sound.I would steer them to Slingy or Luddy. If someone came to me and said.do me up a rehab vintage kit which has some serious balls on the low end.I would hunt down some Premiers. So.to me.it's not so much who's were the BEST.but more.what kind of sound is it you are seeking, in particular. They are incredibly sweet, deep sounding shells and are real beauties. Those old thin birch shells (Olympics as well.since they used the exact same shells for Premiers and Olympics) have the best low end of any of the old makers. the oft overlooked Premiers from that time period. 3-ply with rounded edges.OK.they always sounded a bit flat and un-alive.lacking to me.
IMHO, Gretsch never did anything for me.jasper or no jasper. So, Rogers were punchier and a tad bouncier.in comparison to the warmth of their contemporary Slingy/Luddy counterparts. They were, in a sense, the prototype of modern edges. Rogers shells and edges (in particular the latter) were, to me.always a bit ahead of their time. It's funny.Slingy and Luddy.they were arch rivals back in the day, eh ? Yet, from the point of view of construction specifications, their shells were/are incredibly similar (speaking of the 3-ply re-ringed varieties. Sometimes subtle.sometimes like night and day. Not many folks really get actually having 2 vintage kits side-by-side, same heads, same tuning.to compare to each other. Wow.why do you wanna open up THAT can of worms ?Ĭaddy is right. Head choice and tensioning seems to make more of a difference than brand. I can hear the tiny variations but not anything serious. I'm not sure there is a marked difference (a volatile statement). Lots of room for error, but close enough for government work. I did this in Florida while teaching at Resurrection Drums. It's not a very scientific test (I'm a middle school teacher by trade) but it did demonstrate my point. I've done the same test with vintage drums. I've 'a-b' toms from different manufacturers (more modern) and asked several drummers to identify them. There are variations on these, but that seems to be about it. A warm calfskin drum, a warm vintage drum with mylar, and a modern cutting drum. My gut tells me that there are about three types of drum sounds that we hear. Fact is, they sound great.Īgain, I ask.do we know what sounds good? I haven't the heart to tell them these are the dreaded 6ply shells that everyone shuns like the plague. I get gobs of comments (most of which I've deleted) that talk about how wonderful the old vintage Luddies sound.
I have a 6ply Ludwig kit that I've posted on YouTube. My question is this.Is there a BEST? It seems to me that we all have opinions and they are very different. Slingerland drummers weigh in on the RadioKing vs 3ply vs 5ply. We even have some guys saying that Ludwig lost that vintage tone when they adjusted the pressure rollers by 1970. Some say it has to be 3ply, some say it's the Jasper multiply. It seems that the more people I ask, the more I realize that no two drummers 'hear' drums the same way.
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